This is basically a Reader's Digest version of the Skeptic's Annotated Bible
"Ok bible believers... CAN YOU THINK OR NOT? read this and tell me
why you believe in a book which is total BS..I can go on and on ...I
really believe you were all brain washed and stopped thinking.....
Biblical Fallacies:
God is satisfied with his works, Gen 1:31, God is dissatisfied
with his works. Gen 6:6
God dwells in chosen temples, 2 Chron 7:12,16, God dwells not in
temples, Acts 7:48
God dwells in light, Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness, 1-Kings
8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
God is seen and heard, Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/
Is 6:1/Ex 24:9-11, God is invisible and cannot be heard, John 1:18/
John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
God is tired and rests, Ex 31:17/ Jer 15:6, God is never tired
and never rests, Is 40:28
God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things, Prov 15:3/
Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21, God is not everywhere present, neither
sees nor knows all things, Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8
God knows the hearts of men, Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3 God tries men
to find out what is in their heart, Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12
God is all powerful, Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26, God is not all
powerful, Judg 1:19
God is unchangeable, James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19,
God is changeable, Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings
20:1,4,5,6/ Ex 33:1,3,17,14
God is just and impartial, Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom
2:11/ Ezek 18:25 God is unjust and partial, Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom
9:11-13/ Matt 13:12
God is the author of evil, Lam 3:38/ Jer 18:11/ Is 45:7/ Amos
3:6/ Ezek 20:25, God is not the author of evil, 1 Cor 14:33/ Deut
32:4/ James 1:13
God gives freely to those who ask, James 1:5/ Luke 11:10, God
withholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving them, John
12:40/ Josh 11:20/ Is 63:17
God is to be found by those who seek him, Matt 7:8/ Prov 8:17 God
is not to be found by those who seek him, Prov 1:28
God is warlike, Ex 15:3/ Is 51:15 God is peaceful, Rom 15:33/ 1
Cor 14:33
God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious, Jer 13:14/
Deut 7:16/ 1 Sam 15:2,3/ 1 Sam 6:19, God is kind, merciful, and good,
James 5:11/ Lam 3:33/ 1 Chron 16:34/ Ezek 18:32/ Ps 145:9/ 1 Tim 2:4/
1 John 4:16/ Ps 25:8
God's anger is fierce and endures long, Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer
17:4 God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute, Ps 103:8/ Ps
30:5
God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,
sacrifices ,and holy days, Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9 God
disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings, sacrifices,
and holy days, Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12
God accepts human sacrifices, 2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg
11:30-32,34,38,39 God forbids human sacrifice, Deut 12:30,31
God tempts men, Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13 God
tempts no man, James 1:13
God cannot lie, Heb 6:18 God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying
spirits to deceive, 2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9
Because of man's wickedness, God destroys him, Gen 6:5,7 Because
of man's wickedness, God will not destroy him, Gen 8:21
God's attributes are revealed in his works, Rom 1:20 God's
attributes cannot be discovered, Job 11:7/ Is 40:28
There is but one God, Deut 6:4 There is a plurality of gods, Gen
1:26/ Gen 3:22/ Gen 18:1-3/ 1 John 5:7Moral Precepts
Robbery commanded, Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36, Robbery forbidden,
Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
Lying approved and sanctioned, Josh 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Ex
1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22, Lying forbidden, Ex 20:16/ Prov 12:22/ Rev
21:8
Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned, 2 Kings 14:7,3 Hatred to the
Edomite forbidden, Deut 23:7
Killing commandedEx 32:27 Killing forbidden, Ex 20:13
The blood-shedder must die, Gen 9:5,6 The blood-shedder must not
die, Gen 4:15
The making of images forbidden, Ex 20:4 The making of images
commanded, Ex 25:18,20
Slavery and oppression ordained, Gen 9:25/ Lev 25:45,46/ Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden, Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt
23:10
Improvidence enjoyed, Matt 6:28,31,34/ Luke 6:30,35/ Luke 12:3
Improvidence condemned, 1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22
Anger approved, Eph 4:26 Anger disapproved, Eccl 7:9/ Prov 22:24/
James 1:20
Good works to be seen of men, Matt 5:16 Good works not to be seen
of men, Matt 6:1
Judging of others forbidden, Matt 7:1,2 Judging of others
approved, 1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12
Christ taught non-resistance, Matt 5:39/ Matt 26:52 Christ taught
and practiced physical resistance, Luke 22:36/ John 2:15
Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed, Luke 12:4
Christ himself avoided the Jews for fear of being killed, John 7:1
Public prayer sanctioned, 1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3 Public prayer
disapproved, Matt 6:5,6
Importunity in prayer commended, Luke 18:5,7 Importunity in
prayer condemned, Matt 6:7,8
The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned, Judg 13:5/ Num 6:5
The wearing of long hair by men condemned, 1 Cor 11:14
Circumcision instituted, Gen 17:10 Circumcision condemned, Gal 5:2
The Sabbath instituted, Ex 20:8 The Sabbath repudiated, Is 1:13/
Rom 14:5/ Col 2:16
The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day, Ex
20:11 The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites out
of Egypt, Deut 5:15
No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death, Ex
31:15/ Num 15:32,36 Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his
disciples in the same, John 5:16/ Matt 12:1-3,5
Baptism commanded, Matt 28:19 Baptism not commanded, 1 Cor 1:17,14
Every kind of animal allowed for food, Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom
14:14 Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food, Deut 14:7,8
Taking of oaths sanctioned, Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/
Heb 6:13 Taking of oaths forbidden, Matt 5:34
Marriage approved, Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4
Marriage disapproved, 1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8
Freedom of divorce permitted, Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14 Divorce
restricted, Matt 5:32
Adultery forbidden, Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4 Adultery allowed, Num
31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3
Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced, Deut 27:22/ Lev
20:17 Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union, Gen
20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
A man may marry his brother's widow, Deut 25:5 A man may not
marry his brother's widow, Lev 20:21
Hatred to kindred enjoined, Luke 14:26 Hatred to kindred
condemned, Eph 6:2/ Eph 5:25,29
Intoxicating beverages recommended, Prov 31:6,7/ 1 Tim 5:23/ Ps
104:15 Intoxicating beverages discountenanced, Prov 20:1/ Prov
23:31,32
It is our duty to obey our rulers, who are God's ministers and
punish evil doers only, Rom 13:1-3,6 It is not our duty to obey
rulers, who sometimes punish the good and receive unto themselves
damnation therefore, Ex 1:17,20/ Dan 3:16,18/ Dan 6:9,7,10/ Acts
4:26,27/ Mark 12:38,39,40/ Luke 23:11,24,33,35
Women's rights denied, Gen 3:16/ 1 Tim 2:12/ 1 Cor 14:34/ 1 Pet
3:6 Women's rights affirmed, Judg 4:4,14,15/ Judg 5:7/ Acts 2:18/
Acts 21:9
Obedience to masters enjoined, Col 3:22,23/ 1 Pet 2:18 Obedience
due to God only, Matt 4:10/ 1 Cor 7:23/ Matt 23:10
There is an unpardonable sin, Mark 3:29 There is not unpardonable
sin, Acts 13:39,
Man was created after the other animals, Gen 1:25,26,27 Man was
created before the other animals, Gen 2:18,19
Seed time and harvest were never to cease, Gen 8:22 Seed time and
harvest did cease for seven years, Gen 41:54,56/ Gen 45:6
God hardened Pharaoh's heart, Ex 4:21/ Ed 9:12 Pharaoh hardened
his own heart, Ex 8:15
All the cattle and horses in Egypt died, Ex 9:3,6/ 14:9 All the
horses of Egypt did not die, Ex 14:9
Moses feared Pharaoh, Ex 2:14,15,23; 4:19 Moses did not fear
Pharaoh, Heb 11:27
There died of the plague twenty-four thousand, Num 25:9 There
died of the plague, but twenty-three thousand, 1 Cor 10:8
John the Baptist was Elias, Matt 11:14 John the Baptist was not
Elias, John 1:21
The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob, Matt 1:16 The
father of Mary's husband was Heli, Luke 3:23
The father of Salah was Arphaxad, Gen 11:12 The father of Salah
was Cainan, Luke 3:35,36
There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David, Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David, Matt 1:2-6
There were fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to
Christ, Matt 1:17 There were but thirteen generations from the
Babylonian captivity to Christ, Matt 1:12-16
The infant Christ was taken into Egypt, Matt 2:14,15,19,21,23 The
infant Christ was not taken into Egypt, Luke 2:22, 39
Christ was tempted in the wilderness, Mark 1:12,13 Christ was not
tempted in the wilderness, John 2:1,2
Christ preached his first sermon on the mount, Matt 5:1,2 Christ
preached his first sermon on the plain, Luke 6:17,20
John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee, Mark 1:14 John
was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee, John 1:43/ John
3:22-24
Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff and
sandals, Mark 6:8,9 Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth
with neitherstaffs nor sandals, Matt 10:9,10
A woman of Canaan besought Jesus, Matt 15:22 It was a Greek woman
who besought Him, Mark 7:26
Two blind men besought Jesus, Matt 20:30 Only one blind man
besought Him, Luke 18:35,38
Christ was crucified at the third hour, Mark 15:25 Christ was not
crucified until the sixth hour, John 19:14,15
The two thieves reviled Christ, Matt 27:44/ Mark 15:32 Only one
of the thieves reviled Christ, Luke 23:39,40
Satan entered into Judas while at supper, John 13:27 Satan
entered into him before the supper, Luke 22:3,4,7
Judas committed suicide by hanging, Matt 27:5 Judas did not hang
himself, but died another way, Acts 1:18
The potter's field was purchased by Judas, Acts 1:18 The potter's
field was purchased by the Chief Priests, Matt 27:6,7
There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre, John 20:1
There were two women who came to the sepulchre, Matt 28:1
There were three women who came to the sepulchre, Mark 16:1 There
were more than three women who came to the sepulchre, Luke 24:10
It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre, Mark 16:2 It
was some time before sunrise when they came, John 20:1
There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and
they were standing up, Luke 24:4 There was but one angel seen, and he
was sitting down, Matt 28:2,5
There were two angels seen within the sepulchre, John 20:11,12
There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre, Mark 16:5
Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave, Matt
12:40 Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave, Mark
15:25,42,44,45,46; 16:9>
Holy ghost bestowed at pentecost, Acts 1:8,5 Holy ghost bestowed
before pentecost, John 20:22
The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection
to go into Galilee, Matt 28:10 The disciples were commanded
immediately after the resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem, Luke
24:49
Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at
Jerusalem, Luke 24:33,36,37/ John 20:19 Jesus first appeared to the
eleven on a mountain in Galilee, Matt 28:16,17
Christ ascended from Mount Olivet, Acts 1:9,12 Christ ascended
from Bethany,Luke 24:50,51
Paul's attendants heard the miraculous voice, and stood
speechless, Acts 9:7 Paul's attendants heard not the voice and were
prostrate, Acts 26:14
Abraham departed to go into Canaan, Gen 12:5 Abraham went not
knowing where, Heb 11:8
Abraham had two sons, Gal 4:22 Abraham had but one son, Heb 11:17
Keturah was Abraham's wife, Gen 25:1 Keturah was Abraham's
concubine, 1 Chron 1:32
Abraham begat a son when he was a hundred years old, by the
interposition of Providence, Gen 21:2/ Rom 4:19/ Heb 11:12 Abraham
begat six children more after he was a hundred years old without any
interposition of providence, Gen 25:1,2
Jacob bought a sepulchre from Hamor, Josh 24:32 Abraham bought it
of Hamor, Acts 7:16
God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed forever,
Gen 13:14,15,17; 17:8 Abraham and his seed never received the
promised land, Acts 7:5/ Heb 11:9,13
Goliath was slain by Elhanan, 2 Sam 21:19 *note, was changed in
translation to be correct. Original manuscript was incorrect>The
brother of Goliath was slain by Elhanan1 Chron 20:5
Ahaziah began to reign in the twelfth year of Joram, 2 Kings 8:25
Ahaziah began to reign in the eleventh year of Joram, 2 Kings 9:29
Michal had no child, 2 Sam 6:23 Michal had five children, 2 Sam
21:8
David was tempted by the Lord to number Israel, 2 Sam 24:1 David
was tempted by Satan to number the people, 1 Chron 21:1
The number of fighting men of Israel was 800,000; and of Judah
500,0002 Sam 24:9 The number of fighting men of Israel was 1,100,000;
and of Judah 470,0001 Chron 21:5
David sinned in numbering the people, 2 Sam 24:10 David never
sinned, except in the matter of Uriah, 1 Kings 15:5
One of the penalties of David's sin was seven years of famine, 2
Sam 24:13 It was not seven years, but three years of famine, 1 Chron
21:11,12
David took seven hundred horsemen, 2 Sam 8:4 David took seven
thousand horsemen, 1 Chron 18:4
David bought a threshing floor for fifty shekels of silver, 2 Sam
24:24 David bought the threshing floor for six hundred shekels of
gold, 1 Chron 21:25
David's throne was to endure forever, Ps 89:35-37 David's throne
was cast down, Ps 89:44 Speculative Doctrines
Christ is equal with God, John 10:30/ Phil 2:5 Christ is not
equal with God, John 14:28/ Matt 24:36
Jesus was all-powerful, Matt 28:18/ John 3:35 Jesus was not
all-powerful, Mark 6:5
The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation, Luke 16:16/
Eph 2:15/ Rom 7:6 The law was not superseded by the Christian
dispensation, Matt 5:17-19
Christ's mission was peace, Luke 2:13,14 Christ's mission was not
peace, Matt 10:34
Christ received not testimony from man, John 5:33,34 Christ did
receive testimony from man, John 15:27
Christ's witness of himself is true, John 8:18,14 Christ's
witness of himself is not true, John 5:31
Christ laid down his life for his friends, John 15:13/ John 10:11
Christ laid down his life for his enemies, Rom 5:10
It was lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death, John 19:7 It
was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death, John 18:31
Children are punished for the sins of the parents, Ex 20:5
Children are not punished for the sins of the parents, Ezek 18:20
Man is justified by faith alone, Rom 3:20/ Gal 2:16/ Gal 3:11,12/
Rom 4:2 Man is not justified by faith alone, James 2:21,24/ Rom 2:13
It is impossible to fall from grace, John 10:28/ Rom 8:38,39 It
is possible to fall from grace, Ezek 18:24/ Heb 6:4-6, 2 Pet 2:20,21
No man is without sin, 1 Kings 8:46/ Prov 20:9/ Eccl 7:20/ Rom
3:10 Christians are sinless, 1 John 3: 9,6,8
There is to be a resurrection of the dead, 1 Cor 15:52/ Rev
20:12,13/ Luke 20:37/ 1 Cor 15:16 There is to be no resurrection of
the dead, Job 7:9/ Eccl 9:5/ Is 26:14
Reward and punishment to be bestowed in this world, Prov 11:31
Reward and punishment to be bestowed in the next world, Rev 20:12/
Matt 16:27/ 2 Cor 5:10
Annihilation the portion of all mankind, Job 3: 11,13-17,19-22/
Eccl 9:5,10/ Eccl 3:19,20 Endless misery the portion of all mankind,
Matt 25:46/ Rev 20:10,15/ Rev 14:11/ Dan 12:2
The Earth is to be destroyed, 2 Pet 3:10/ Heb 1:11/ Rev 20:11 The
Earth is never to be destroyed, Ps 104:5/ Eccl 1:4
No evil shall happen to the godly, Prov 12:21/ 1 Pet 3:13 Evil
does happen to the godly, Heb 12:6/ Job 2:3,7
Worldly good and prosperity are the lot of the godly, Prov 12:21/
Ps 37:28,32,33,37/ Ps 1:1,3/ Gen 39:2/Job 42:12 Worldly misery and
destitution the lot of the godlyHeb 11:37,38/ Rev 7:14/ 2 Tim 3:12/
Luke 21:17
Worldly prosperity a reward of righteousness and a blessing, Mark
10:29,30/ Ps 37:25/ Ps 112:1,3/ Job 22:23,24/Prov 15:6 Worldly
prosperity a curse and a bar to future reward, Luke 6:20,24/ Matt
6:19,21/ Luke 16:22/ Matt 19:24/Luke 6:24
The Christian yoke is easy, Matt 11:28,29,30 The Christian yoke
is not easy, John 16:33/ 2 Tim 3:12/ Heb
12:6,8
The fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness, Gal 5:22 The
fruit of God's spirit is vengeance and fury, Judg 15:14/ 1 Sam
18:10,11
Longevity enjoyed by the wicked, Job 21:7,8/ Ps 17:14/ Eccl 8:12/
Is 65:20 Longevity denied to the wicked, Eccl 8:13/ Ps 55:23/ Prov
10:27/ Job 36:14/ Eccl 7:17
Poverty a blessing, Luke 6:20,24/ Jams 2:5 Riches a blessingProv
10:15/ Job 22:23,24/ Job 42:12 Neither poverty nor riches a
blessingProv 30:8,9
Wisdom a source of enjoyment, Prov 3:13,17 Wisdom a source of
vexation, grief and sorrow, Eccl 1:17,18
A good name is a blessing, Eccl 7:1/ Prov 22:1 A good name is a
curse, Luke 6:26
Laughter commended, Eccl 3:1,4/ Eccl 8:15 Laughter condemned,
Luke 6:25/ Eccl 7:3,4
The rod of correction a remedy for foolishness, Prov 22:15 There
is no remedy for foolishness, Prov 27:22
A fool should be answered according to his folly, Prov 26:5 A
fool should not be answered according to his folly, Prov 26:4
Temptation to be desired, James 1:2 Temptation not to be desired,
Matt 6:13
Prophecy is sure, 2 Pet 1:19 Prophecy is not sure, Jer 18:7-10
Man's life was to be one hundred and twenty years, Gen 6:3/ Ps
90:10 Man's life is but seventy years, Ps 90:10 Gen. 9:28 Noah lived
to 950 years
The fear of man was to be upon every beast, Gen 9:2 The fear of
man is not upon the lion, Prov 30:30
Miracles a proof of divine mission, Matt 11:2-5/ John 3:2/ Ex
14:31 Miracles not a proof of divine mission, Ex 7:10-12/ Deut
13:1-3/ Luke 11:19
Moses was a very meek man, Num 12:3Moses was a very cruel manNum
31:15,17
Elijah went up to heaven, 2 Kings 2:11 None but Christ ever
ascended into heaven, John 3:13
All scripture is inspired, 2 Tim 3:16 Some scripture is not
inspired, 1 Cor 7:6/ 1 Cor 7:12/ 2 Cor 11:17
Jesus prays to himself, his father which is also him, too??Jesus and
god are supposed to be one and the same, yet he asked on the cross,
"My God, My God, Why Has Thou Forsaken Me?1. God being the creator of
all things, created Satan and evil, Isaiah 45:7.2. It repented the
Lord that he created a man and a woman. Gen. ch. 6 Vs: 6 So this
statement shows that God himself made a great mistake. Although, it
is not written that it repented God to have made Satan and allowed
evil to exist in the first place.3. God rested on the 7th day of
creation, damn good thing too, what else was he about to screw up?4.
The all knowing God had to ask Adam and Eve where were they, when he
was looking for them.5. The 3rd or 4th person to arrive was a
murderer, Cain slew Abel and the all knowing God had to ask Cain
where was his brother?If I were a god, I would have made sure that
Adam and Eve conceived a male and a female to start the
multiplication process to begin with instead of two rival brothers,
perhaps Abel was gay? Yes/No?6. All people were so wicked that God
had to destroy them, but why did God not offer them a plan of
salvation, since Jesus was ready and willing to die for everyone's
sins? And God already knew that Jesus was going to be born of a
virgin some day, right? Oh I know, there were no virgins available at
that time....ha ha ha7. Now after thousands of years, God's brain
kicks into gear and he's thinking up a plan, a way for peoples sins
to be forgiven, because we know that God hates sin, Did I say the God
of love, hates?...yikes, God hates sin, but yet he created it and
allows it to exist.8. Now Mary wanted a baby and has a visitation by
an angel, a messenger from God....but not God??....no no, a messenger
from God, and the angel impregnates Mary or was it God, or the
messenger?9. After Jesus arrives we have spirits souls, miracles,
etc. All this sounds contrived doesn't it? Sounds man made doesn't
it?10. It's very important to God that Jesus be beaten, flogged, spit
on, dragged, cursed, persecuted, so that mans sins may be forgiven.
Of course, God could have just eliminated all sin to begin with, but
we would not have such a bizarre story to deceive people into
believing would we?11. God being Jesus in disguise as his only
begotten son, calls out to God (himself) Matt. 27, 46 In the ninth
hour Jesus called out My God, My God, Why has thou forsaken me? And
God waits until the third day to receive himself?
If one man was beaten and dragged through the streets and can save
souls, imagine what six million of God's (chosen people) tortured to
death Jews can do, let's see...absolutely NOTHING!!!
TWO contrary Genesis versions suggests at least two writers, both
ignorant or unmindful of each other, and ignorant of the facts of
nature and astronomy, not to mention the age of the earth. Let any
secular writer pen a book with so many contradictions (more of which
will follow), on science, geology, morals or anything, and the world
would plunge, as a vulture on carrion, to heap monumental scorn over
the work. As "history," the Bible is unique. In First Kings 16:6,8
the king of Israel, Baasha, dies, replaced by his son Elah during the
26th year of Asa's (King of Judah) reign. But in Second Chronicles
l6:1 we read that Baasha, king of Israel, goes against Judah during
Asa's 36th year. A King dies, is buried, his son becomes King, but
after a decade, the dead king leads a military adventure! In truthful
historical chronicles, dead kings stay dead, but in the Bible when a
king dies, he's merely planning to pick a fight! In Genesis 9:3:
"Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat" for Noah. But
Deuteronomy (14:7-21) later gives a list of animals, birds and fish
that must not be eaten. Circumcision is required (Gen.17:10), and
useless (Gal. 5:2). Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac
(Gen.16:15 & 21:3) but Isaac was Abraham's "only" son? (Gen. 22:2,12
& Heb. 11:17). In Exodus 33:20, says God, "Thou canst not see my
face; for there shall be no man see me and live." God must have been
mistaken, or changed: For in Genesis 32:30 Jacob sees God "face to
face" and lives. The same for Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu and 70
elders, who saw God, and ate and drank with him (Exodus 24:9-11). But
not so, says John 1:18: "No man hath seen God at any time." How
decide? Well, I agree with John. God dwells "in the light which no
man can approach" (1 Tim. 6:l6). But this is not true, as in First
Kings 8:12 it says: "The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick
darkness." Would literalists say I shouldn't be so "literal"? Is the
"light" in which Jesus dwells "en(light)enment?" Does God remain in
thick darkness but keeps this "light" of enlightenment? But aren't we
opening a Pandora's box of endless "interpretation" here? Where do we
draw the line if we do that? When the cry (Josh.10:12-13) "Sun, stand
thou still" (and moon too) was uttered and carried out, the sun
"stood still" in the sky, not setting. But of course, as we all now
know about astronomy, a 'setting sun' is an inaccurate archaic and
figurative phrase reflecting only the illusion of a moving sun. It's
created by the actual motion of a rotating earth around its own axis.
In the solar system, the sun is, of course, already "still" (while
the moon isn't). But, I guess God knew what Joshua "meant," and
instead of quibbling over astronomical facts, He allowed the Bible
writings to describe it inaccurately (using the primitive terminology
of the knowledge of the time). So God magically stilled both the
earth and moon (and did it without cataclysmically throwing our land
and continents off into space). But then, there's that
"interpretation" thing again, because the "word of God" definitely
does say the sun "stood still" (implying incorrectly that it had been
in motion) and not that it "appeared" to, or that the "Earth stood
still." Is the Bible literal or figurative? (See also Eccl. 1:5,
about "the Sun also riseth...." and Chron 16:30; Psalms 93:1 [Earth
is already immovable]) . MATTHEW quotes Jesus (19:26), "with God all
things are possible." Did Matthew or Jesus forget something? In the
Book of Judges (1:19) God is not almighty, as he helped rid Judah of
inhabitants of the mountain, but could not drive out those in the
valley "because they had chariots of iron." This God of miracles
apparently can move the largest body in the solar system, the Sun (or
at least stop planet earth), in order to prolong daylight for
Joshua's military revenge (or to move the sun's shadow 10 degrees
backward [2 Kings 20:10-11 or Isaiah 38:7- 8]). Yet this same mover
of heavens is cowed by mere horses & buggies made of iron? I wonder
what would happen if God decided to attack a "modern" 1950 Buick?
Exodus 31:I7: Like a man, God rests and can be "refreshed." Isaiah
scorns such contemptible weakness. In 40:28 he insists God, creator
of the "ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary." An
infinite God cannot tire, nor needs to be - nor can be --
"refreshed." Again on astronomy, the spectre of "interpretation"
rises, asking us: 'what are these "ends" of the earth' quoted above?
A spherical planet has no "ends." Even a flat plate or the line of a
circle is "endless." The phrase "ends of the earth" then, was not
figurative: We know the common belief then was that earth, very
literally, did have "ends." Nowhere in the Bible is the earth
described as "spherical." (See also Rev. 7:1: "...four angels
standing on the four corners of the earth" & Daniel 4:10-11. Daniel's
words here make little sense for a spherical earth)
GOD does not change. James 1:17 says God has "no variableness..." but
then, in Jonah 3:10, God "repented" and changed his mind about
smiting Nineveh's people. So what are we to think of assurances given
in Numbers 23:19, which states, "God is not a man...neither the son
of man, that he should repent." Yet this tireless omnipotent God
himself volunteers the striking thought in Jeremiah 15:6, "I am weary
with repenting." How human that confession sounds by a presumably
unchanging God who 'cannot weary' (as Isaiah wrote above), nor repent.
In Deuteronomy 4:24 "God is a consuming fire, but in John 4:1 "God is
love." He's "the God of Peace" in Romans 15:33 but in Exodus 15:3,
"the Lord is a man of war." (Called a "man" here? Yet not called a
man in Numbers 23:19?) God is "just and right" (Deut.32:4) yet in a
mercenary manner he advises, in the dietary restrictions, that what
you can't eat as unclean may be given "unto the stranger...or thou
mayest sell it unto an alien." Gee, has the Better Business Bureau
heard of this "just and right" commercial behavior? (Deut.l4:21) God
said (Isaiah 45:7) "I make peace and create evil," a contradiction in
one holy breath!! (And we all thought, of our own evil, it was 'the
devil made me do it.') "Now go and smite Amelek and utterly destroy
all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman
infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" (1 Sam. 15:3). That
was Samuel's order for Saul originating from the Lord. Wrote one
Bible commentator, M. J. Gauvin: "Slay the old man with trembling
hands and silvered hair; murder the mother who shields with her body
the life of her child; rifle the cradle, and plunge the glittering
sword of death through the frail form of the smiling babe ...and
know, ye fiends of ruthless slaughter, ye but fulfil the command of
the God whose 'mercy endureth forever'!" "Love thy neighbor as
thyself?" (Lev.l9:l8). Mass murder is again condoned in Exodus 32:27;
in Deut. 2:15-16 and 34-36 and 3:2. No "just and right" God of true
peace or love could command a massacre of innocents. These are the
writings and contradictions in a religious human-inspired literature
coming from the biases and values of an uncivilized warrior peoples.
To call this the "inspired words" of a merciful, worthy Deity should
be a base insult to even the meanest intelligence.
Sacrifices of helpless animals, even human sacrifices, such as of
Isaac, offered by Abraham (but stopped), or of Jeptha's daughter, or
the seven sons of David, are plentiful in the Bible, and are
acceptable practices ordained by the Lord. See also Leviticus
27:28-29 about how humans, lands and beasts can be sacrificed. Yet
elsewhere God condemns it as an abomination and is "weary to bear
them." (Jer.7:22 & Is.1:11-16) Speaking of abominations, there is the
mere handling of pigskin (Lev.ll:7-8). Woe unto football players! And
woe unto those who curse their parents, for such deserve death
(Lev.20:9). Yet they are enjoined to also hate mom and dad too, in
order to become disciples (Luke 14:26). Resurrections? Job 7:9 says
who "goeth down to the grave shall come up no more." The Old
Testament denies immortality in no uncertain terms. The New Testament
proclaims it - but as an eternal agony for most of you. All these
contradictions make biblical words appear as if they are a departure
from sanity - if they were the words of one consistent, unchanging
being.
You'll read that children will suffer for the sins of the parents,
yet elsewhere, read that no one will bear sins other than their own
(Ex.20:5 vs Ezek.l8:20). The Sabbath is required to be kept as holy,
but -- each of us can make up our own minds (Ex.20:8 vs Rom.l4:5)
"Judge not, that ye be not judged' (Matt.7:l), yet others must be
judged? (1Cor. 6:2-4). There's but one allowed reason (adultery) to
divorce your wife, but elsewhere, divorce can be for any reason
(Matt.5:32 vs Deut.2l:l4 & 24:1-3). Note, in this Deuteronomy a
divorced woman can safely and sinlessly marry again, but in Matthew,
a divorced woman that remarries is guilty of adultery, which deserves
death of both her and her new husband (Lev.20:10). Neat sense of
fairness, eh? If Eve was created merely from Adam's rib, it's no
wonder that women are valued less than men, as in Leviticus 27:3-7,
where a man's value in shekels is double that of a woman. Or:
"neither was man created for woman but woman for man" (lCor. 11:8-9).
This "Just and right" God in Exodus 21:20-21 approves a further
double standard: Whereas adultery or just hitting your parents
deserves death (Ex.2l:l5), a master beating a servant or maid to
death with a rod shall only "be punished" in some non- lethal manner.
In Exodus 21:2I, the master can remain unpunished for beating
servants daily because the servant "is his money." Similarly,
throughout this chapter, is the sale and possession of human beings
condoned (21:4,7). 'The Boss don't like no back-talk' is clear in
Exodus 21:5-6: If a servant doesn't want to be sent away from his
family (owned by the master) but says he loves them and will not
leave, master can "bring him unto the door, or unto the door post;
and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall
serve him forever." "Just and right"? One believer wrote me the Old
Testament's inspired words were meant to "mitigate or regulate"
behavior and raise it to a "more humane level" than usually
practiced. Gimme a break! If the Old testament isn't "static or
forever," as he wrote, why doesn't he also take the stories of
Genesis as equally not final nor literal factual truth? Why one and
not the other? Not only is slavery in the Old Testament, but in the
New Testament, too: First Timothy 6:1,8 states those "under the yoke"
(i.e. slaves) shall give "all honour" to their masters, and suggests
in its context we should be grateful for scraps and rags without
critique nor envy. Again in Ephesians 6:5, obedience to masters by
servants is urged to be just like obedient worship given Christ.
Worship the Boss?
However, this backward morality (which is excused as too entrenched
in those times for even God to overthrow completely, God preferring
to moderate it instead), was not too hard for a mere mortal,
Spartacus, to challenge totally. How can a non-god espouse more
advanced ideals of freedom, and oppose slavery completely, when the
God of all the universe could only weakly compromise those principles
among his subjects? "No evil shall happen to the just" we're told
(Prov.l2:21). Yet Job, about whom God said no one else on earth was
nearly as good and upright, is nevertheless handed over, by God, to
Satan for torture (Job 2:3-7). The fate, also in the modern world, of
good Christians and innocents under the protection of God's proverb,
is horrendous. Moses is the meekest man in the world (Num.l2:3), yet
he orders the butchery of women and children in cold blood and the
taking of female children, who are still virgins, to keep alive "for
yourselves" under the permission of God (Num.31:17)
The Bible speaks well of liquor and also condemns it (Deut. 14:226 vs
Prov.20:l). It says avoid temptation, but welcome it too (Matt.6:l3
vs James 1:12). The same dichromatics appear for wealth as First
Timothy preaches (6:10) "love of money is the root of all evil,"
added to by Luke 6:24, but denied by Proverbs 10:15, and elsewhere
there. Here's more "perfect harmony" of the Bible's words: According
to Luke, Christ ascended in the flesh. Paul says "Flesh and blood
cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven" (Luke 24:39-51 vs 1 Cor.15:50).
The evening of Christ's resurrection is the time of ascension for
Luke, but Acts dates it 40 days after, (Luke 24:1-59 vs Acts 1:3 ).
After resurrecting, Jesus was to meet the disciples, says Matthew, in
Galilee; but says Luke, it was to be in Jerusalem -- merely 100 miles
apart! (Matt.28:l6-17 vs Luke 24:33-36). "I and my Father are One"
(John 10:30). But, "My Father is greater than I" (John 14:28) and "My
God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Math. 27:46). The contradictions
seem as infinite as God. Let your good deeds shine before men "that
they may see your good works." So much for modesty. Then Matthew has
Jesus say "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men to be seen
of them." (Matt. 5:l6 vs 6:1) Many other details of the crucifixion,
resurrection and ascension are disparate. This, of course, is normal
when it's different human witnesses describing any traumatic event,
committing errors such as misquoting, forgetting what was said
exactly or reinterpreting meaning through the biased sieve of one's
own prejudices. For example: Facing Pilate, Christ spoke only two
words, said Matthew. John said Christ gave a speech! (Matt. 27:11 vs
John 18:34-37). We are told repeatedly, the marvelous works found in
nature, or all the universe, "require" and prove a creator's
existence. But in the ultimate logical inconstancy of the Bible, it
says nothing about why the greatest marvel of all needs no creator.
If God does not need to be created, what did God do before the
universe? Where did God exist? Nowhere in Genesis did God create
"time." Why not? Because so ubiquitous is time to us, it's "only
human" to lose awareness of such a constant sensation (much as we
mask out the sound of an electric fan blowing in our room or the
engine's hum when we drive). Thus its need to be created failed to be
recorded by human scribes who really couldn't conceive (nor notice)
that it even needed to be created. [See Appendix below.] Did God
create himself out of nothingness? I am no Bible scholar, but I know
this is but surface-scratching the tip of the iceberg about Bible
errors and conflicts, and it already proves it a fallible human
document of many inaccuracies, failures of logic, with biases and
mixed motives shown by petty witnesses and superstitious, ignorant
drinking buddies. Maybe they had one too many?
If the Bible is true, then these conditions are real and verifiable
outside of the Bible: The universe is only six thousand years old,
dinosaurs never existed, the world is flat and the earth is in the
center of the universe, the Sun goes around the earth, demons,
invisible spirits, ghosts, holy ghosts, demons, angels, snakes,
bushes, and donkeys, can talk, virgin birth is possible, god and
jesus live in the clouds above, prayer has secret powers over this
god, miracles and blessing do occur, invisible souls can either be
saved or unsaved, depending on what a person decides to believe in
their heart, the heart is the center of all thought and emotion,
people can talk to god and jesus with their heart, there is no such
thing as a brain, people can be raised from the dead, people can walk
on water, water can be turned into wine, 5000 people can easily be
fed with two loaves and two fishes, only invisible jesus can save
invisible souls, diseases are caused by demons, science is of the
devil, a person can live in the belly of a whale for three days and
nights, a whales'stomach acid has no effect upon humans.
All scripture is dog shit!!!"
A bit angery rant but still a great accomplishment.
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[-]Milkingcows 308 points 1 day ago
Holy shit
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[-]runningman360 70 points 15 hours ago
Dude I really wanted to read all of it, but I also need to fucking
sleep tonight.
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[-]tastybabyhands 10 points 11 hours ago
Read it and it was worth it. Sleep when ur ded.
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[-]a_tiny_ant 11 points 15 hours ago
Literally.
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[-]VolansGaming 3 points 9 hours ago
Holy shit. Not holy shit. Or is it?
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[-]TheCannon 1 point an hour ago
This is basically a Reader's Digest version of the Skeptic's
Annotated Bible.
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[-]MyDogFanny 153 points 1 day ago
I like the Christian response that says you are taking things out of
context and you are cherry picking those verses that are meant to be
taking allegorically and not literally.
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[-]Ohrion 75 points 20 hours ago
Just like literally EVERY sermon.
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[-]IIIlll11lllIII 11 points 14 hours ago
Or is it allegorically every sermon.
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[-]JediWolfeur 5 points 10 hours ago
It's allegorically cherry-picked sermons.
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[-]Anti-Theistcritically_damped 1 point 2 hours ago
But are they literally figurative, or figuratively literal?
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[-]Agnostic Atheist--Paladin-- 29 points 20 hours ago
Indeed, that DOES seem to be the steadfast rule -- any verse or
phrase that makes Yahweh, Jesus, Christianity or the Bible look bad
is ALWAYS "taken out of context" (or mistranslated)!
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[-]el_derrotado 14 points 16 hours ago
And the person recognizing the "mistranslation" is always perfectly
fluent in old English, Aramaic, ancient Hebrew, ancient Greek, and
all the dead languages of the region/time, so of course they know a
bad translation when they see one.
Speaking of translations, I just saw a thing the other day that said
"thou" was as informal as "y'all", which if true means the KJV (which
many translations are based on/related to) are about as serious as a
Shakespeare play written by a hillbilly.
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[-]pigcheddars 6 points 13 hours ago
Regarding "thou" - not exactly. At one point in the evolution of
English it was the familiar form of address, contrasting to "you",
which was polite. Familiar and polite 2nd person pronouns still exist
in a lot of European languages and are a better comparison than
"y'all", which is dialect and technically plural (depending on who
you talk to).
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[-]frenerd 2 minutes ago
Y'all's is my favorite word.
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[-]Satanistiswearatkids 3 points 12 hours ago
People can't understand the mind of god, that's why he killed the
shit out of people for not doing what he wants and then killed
himself to save us from him killing us because we can't understand
him.
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[-]mdillenbeck 69 points 22 hours ago
I read the first point and immediately know the response:
Only true believers can understand the word of the Lord, and no
non-believer can understand it's true meaning.
The translation used is flawed.
Sorry, people of faith have many of these types of exceptions to deal
with cognitive dissonance. For example, anything bad or evil happens
to someone good? They have "The Devil" as the scapegoat, but bad
things to 'evil' people is a x punishment from God. In other words,
there is no point in rational arguments or making a long post - it
will be dismissed in less than 3 sentences.
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[-]Long_rifle 8 points 20 hours ago
I can understand that for one or two examples. But paste this
manifesto and that's a lot of translation errors. At that point
it's like Darth Vader, more marching then man. Twisted and evil.
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[-]palparepa 10 points 18 hours ago
One would think that after two thousand years of editorial work, such
errors would be minimal.
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[-]Anti-Theistcritically_damped 2 points 2 hours ago
"Hey.... guys? Did you all notice we still have slavery in here? I
mean, as a good thing??? Maybe we should do something about that?
Guys?"
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[-]Samatic 1 point 7 hours ago
yep the force makes more sense than this bullshit. "Fear is the path
to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate
leads to suffering.” Yoda my friend Yoda.
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[-]SifuDaddy 3 points 19 hours ago
I have to agree with this. It's amazing what a shut-off mind can
block out. You could hand a pious fool a bound volume of this stuff,
they'd open a page, say “feh”, close it and hand it back with a
shrug.
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[-]Agnostic AtheistCarnalizerSacred 91 points 1 day ago
I dind't expected such size of a comment holy shit
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[-]Dudeistsnarkamedes 6 points 6 hours ago
Like that line in Star Wars: "That's no thread, it's an archive!"
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[-]Pastafarianelectrabotanic 4 points 5 hours ago
copy-pasted into a word doc and it's 12 pages.
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[-]AnthonyTheLesser 27 points 20 hours ago
"3. God rested on the 7th day of creation, damn good thing too, what
else was he about to screw up?"
LOL
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[-]Strong AtheistTangoGV 26 points 20 hours ago
I didn't even knew reddit supported posts this size.
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[-]zeugma25 22 points 23 hours ago
at this point, a link to the Skeptic's Annotated Bible would be better
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[-]Tekhead001 49 points 1 day ago
The standard Christian answer two things like this is that it is all
a mystery that nobody can understand. Can the fact that you can't
understand it means it is true by default and that you are inferior
for not understanding something that does not make sense.
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[-]Agnostic AtheistThe_Third_Three 17 points 18 hours ago
Can the fact that you can't understand it means it is true by
default
By this logic they are admitting climate change and evolution are
true lol
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[-]AutoHitlerator 3 points 11 hours ago
And all other religions...
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[-]ChrisM227 13 points 19 hours ago
Trump would be proud of that wall
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[-]SifuDaddy 3 points 19 hours ago
Let's give that patriot a b r i c c c k
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[-]el_derrotado 10 points 16 hours ago
Im more impressed with the fact that YouTube apparently doesn't limit
comment length at all.
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[-]AtheistMaqiZodiac 11 points 21 hours ago
Epic wall of text.
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[-]subkumquat 10 points 20 hours ago
Pretty sure that grey nose hair I just plucked wasn't gray when I
started scrolling.
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[-]userfrommars 30 points 1 day ago
TDLR...?!
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[-]Anti-TheistLordOfFigaro 46 points 1 day ago
Basically comment form of bibviz.com
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[-]dusspeal[S] 17 points 1 day ago
What a beautiful website. Thanks for linking. Actually much better
than this wall of text someone made.
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[-]IgtheistRhaedas 3 points 21 hours ago
I imagine this got on /r/dataisbeautiful at one time or another.
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[-]AceGently 1 point 19 hours ago
I was going to post here, just so I wouldn't lose track of that list,
and behold another superb resource!
Thanks! I've been trying to compile data like this myself over the
years, and now I don't have to, and I don't even feel like I wasted
any time.
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[-]palparepa 3 points 18 hours ago
"Too Detailed, Let's Read"?
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[-]userfrommars 3 points 16 hours ago
Too Detailed, Let's Run.
Too Doggy, Let's Ride.
Touch Dolly, Laugh Right.
Too Dirty, Like Rain.
That's original on purpose.
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[-]oleboogerhays 2 points 11 hours ago
A bunch of times where the Bible contradicts itself. It's good to
know a few of these really well so you can at least make a few points
before the religious person dismisses every point you made. The hope
being that one of the contradictions you pointed out will make them
think about it down the road.
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[-]Desktus 7 points 1 day ago
He knows his stuff
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[-]Darwincroc 5 points 19 hours ago
"I can go on and on"
Can?
CAN??
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[-]Irreligiousjherazob 2 points 8 hours ago
This is just a warmup
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[-]ComradeChairmanKGB 5 points 21 hours ago
Fuck I was feeling like i put too much effort into the massive
comment I just wrote to shut someone down elsewhere on this
subreddit. But dayum, that monster there is a fucking manifesto.
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[-]metricrules 4 points 16 hours ago
It's like the Bible is made of up many barely relatable texts written
well after the events supposedly took place
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[-]I'm a NoneSmug_Anime_Face 10 points 1 day ago
MFW
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[-]NoSkyGuy 5 points 20 hours ago
That is a great list. Love to peg the religious with it.
Is it in a printable form somewhere?
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[-]Ham-tar-o 3 points 14 hours ago
Can't you just copy and paste it into notepad/Word?
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[-]Anti-TheistThe9gods 4 points 15 hours ago
By Priapus massive cock. I was expecting a wall of text, but this is
a wall even Trump would be proud of!
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[-]tastybabyhands 5 points 11 hours ago
I dont think you could read that and still believe after. It would
HAVE to change they way you think?? Or just god works in mysterious
wayz??
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[-]Chris-Strummer 4 points 11 hours ago
Probably the longest reddit post I've seen, but it's filled with pure
gold. This agnostic approves 👍
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[-]disimaid4rdt 4 points 11 hours ago
BUURN!! WHAT A MONSTER OF A COMMENT
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[-]katiekatX86 6 points 21 hours ago
ATHEIST COPYPASTA!!
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[-]VitalNumber 2 points 14 hours ago
Pretty good pasta, Mmmmm, so tasty and suggestive pasta. Mmmm, mmmm,
mmm, so controversially significant pasta. Mmmm, oohhhh, mmmmmm, oh
yea mmmmm, so to the fucking point it's worth repeating copypasta.
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[-]AutoHitlerator 2 points 11 hours ago
Diddly oodily
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[-]LittleWeezle 5 points 21 hours ago
Ill just copy and paste this to any Christian that debates me
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[-]SporkOfThor 4 points 13 hours ago
Damn. That's a lot.
To be fair, some of this is up for interpretation because the
translation may be a little off. Or a lot off. That's the translation
of the books that weren't edited out.
And that's another thing: God throws language into chaos because of
the building of the Tower of Babel, then inspires the writers of the
Bible to write in some obscure provincial languages, Hebrew and
Aramaic, which Bible then needs to be roughly translated into
hundreds of different languages in order to be understood....
And honestly, shouldn't a good part of the New Testament be devoted
to the building of long-distance seafaring vessels? If a precondition
to get into heaven is to accept Jesus, and there were two continents
on the other side of the world with millions of people being born,
living and dying without hearing the word of God for a Millennia and
a half....
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[-]Knee_Jerk_Sydney 3 points 9 hours ago
"And honestly, shouldn't a good part of the New Testament be devoted
to the building of long-distance seafaring vessels?" That was covered
in the old testament. Flood powered and enough space to house two of
every animal for 40 days and 40 nights to boot.
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[-]SporkOfThor 1 point 2 hours ago
Yeah, to be honest, I thought of that. But the ark was meant to drift
aimlessly, or to be guided by the hand of god, or something. And the
ark story was cobbled from an earlier 'heathen' story embedded in the
Epic of Gilgamesh.
And speaking of the New World, how was it that Noah managed to get
two of every animal from everywhere, if he couldn't get samples from
the undiscovered North and South America?
As far as shipbuilding is concerned, I'm talking intricate technical
manuals on the manufacture of hulls, ropes, sails, rudders, ocean
currents, sea charts showing the New World, etc. It's almost as if
Jesus didn't care about the natives in the New World, he didn't have
one word to speak about them.
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[-]Anti-Theistcritically_damped 2 points 2 hours ago
He could have done more for them by instilling some fucking rules
against slavery, or by forbidding the building of boats.
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[-]SporkOfThor 14 minutes ago
There is some question about how much rules would have helped.
Columbus speculated that he could subdue all the Tainos on the island
where he landed with a small contingency of troops and war dogs.
And now recently some researchers are speculating that Columbus was
also interested in evangelizing and winning back the holy lands. So
he was actually more than just a mercenary, but was actually
motivated by spreading Christianity. Or, his version of it, which
involved genocide, torture, etc.
There was an active debate in later years as to whether or not the
New World natives could be considered as fully human, and worthy of
Salvation, instead of just wiping them out.
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[-]MMizzle9 2 points 20 hours ago
Skepticsannotatedbible.com
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[-]CreaterOfHell 4 points 22 hours ago
I'm sorry but this is too much to read for me
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[-]Ham-tar-o 4 points 14 hours ago
said the Christian about their Bible
ziiing
in all seriousness, though, I don't get why they don't all read the
shit out of it
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[-]CreaterOfHell 1 point 11 hours ago
I don't have the attention span
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[-]Ham-tar-o 1 point an hour ago
But someone who believes would have to believe that either there's
eternal torture that awaits if they don't follow what it says, or
that there's an all-loving creator that wants them to love it (you
ought to be willing to read a book at least once for anyone you
love). Whether by carrot or stick, there's no good reason not to read
it as a believer.
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[-]GeebusNZ 1 point 11 hours ago
The ones who believe already get what they want out of it, and it
seems to vary from person to person. Some people want a way to feel
superior, others want a way to feel secure, others want to feel
purpose.
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[-]Skanky 3 points 1 day ago
Isn't this from evilbible.com ?
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[-]dusspeal[S] 1 point 1 day ago
No idea.
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[-]VitalNumber 1 point 14 hours ago
Just the regular bible, probably cited on evilbible.com.
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[-]ApatheistNotbob1234 1 point 20 hours ago
The book of /r/dusspeal
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[-]HumanistThe_Space_Jamke 1 point 20 hours ago
Now this deserves to be on the front page of the MurderedByWords sub.
I didn't even get to the second section before I keeled over.
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[-]zombeez80 1 point 19 hours ago
epic
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[-]Strong Atheisttxn_gay 1 point 16 hours ago
It's almost like the bible was written inspired by a god who
suffers from severe dementia.
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[-]VitalNumber -1 points 14 hours ago
It was written by fallible men, so we can't trust what they wrote.
The contradictions are there to test your faith and only find true
believers.
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[-]Alether 1 point 4 hours ago
Ah, I love me some no true scotsman fallacy.
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[-]IntlMysteryMan 1 point 16 hours ago
This started fairly strong with the contradictory bible verses, got
weaker with some of them taking things out of context or just forcing
a contradiction, and then completely lost any and all value as a
deconversion tool with the lols and palpable eye rolls.
It's late and I'm tired. Can someone clean this up and make it
actually usable? Because I see promise here.
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[-]RainbowCoatl 1 point 15 hours ago
I'd love to read every sentence and point but the current state of
the internet has ruined my attention span. I'm actually being
serious. But what I did read was most excellent.
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[-]AtheistProteus_Marius 1 point 15 hours ago
I'm no believer, but I can explain that mess by the theory of the
multitude of epistles and such. As it turns out, Saul/Paul wasn't a
level dealer, so some writings were ... improved over time ... so to
speak. He tried to create a different narrative than Jesus intended,
and that led to a nasty schism among the disciples and their
followers.
By the time of Constantine's Council of Nicaea, there were over three
hundred different practicing views of christianity. Go figure, right?
Well, someone had to clean up the mess, it seems.
Anyway, they slapped together a compromise set of books to call the
bible and they banned the rest. And here's where the oxen met the
cart, because if one wanted to believe in Jesus and god and such,
then one had to accept all the weird inconsistencies that were baked
into the big compromise in about 325 CE.
And it's been one brain washing after another ever since.
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[-]Knee_Jerk_Sydney 3 points 9 hours ago
Too bad they left out the gospel of Thomas. The child Jesus was more
like Damien and using his magic powers to blind and maim anyone who
pissed him off.
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[-]FlyingSquid 2 points 8 hours ago
That's the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, not the Gospel of Thomas. Two
different books. Both silly.
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[-]jab_a_hut 1 point 14 hours ago
Jesus!
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[-]onacloverifalive 1 point 8 hours ago
Here's my take. Every bit of wisdom that leads to understanding can
be gleaned from life's experience.
The Bible is a collection of perpetually revised oral and now written
tradition that attempts to supplant the life lessons for those who
cannot or do not understand life, or who are too meek to learn it's
lessons by living fully.
For many the book is an attempt made from love of humanity intended
as a guide, a source of inspiration and a shortcut to life's answers
to some pertinent questions.
You could pass every test in school by stealing the answer key, but
that would defeat the purpose of school. Nonetheless, some relatively
disadvantaged people only make it through school or life with an
answer key without having to achieve and exert reason.
The problem with that strategy and the crux of the situation is that
life isn't an absolutely true-false prospect. Everything is shades of
gray, and at every stage of life that understanding was increased, It
seems one may find that at every preceding stage, all that was
assumed to be unconditionally true was in fact fraught with exception
at any differing scale or condition.
The conclusion i draw is that everything has an emergent fractal of
exception to the rules whether we are speaking about morality,
physics, chemistry, or cosmology.
You can never understand everything and you can never be
unconditionally correct, so you may as well just be as harmonious as
possible lest you reap what you sow otherwise. As it turns out,
getting the right answers was never all that important anyway.
Learning how to help and depend upon and live among others was the
most valuable exercise. Whether accomplished through school, or faith
community, or employment, or travels more so than remembering
whatever was in the books, only that lesson was paramount.
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[-]OpinionatedLulz 1 point 7 hours ago
I was reading along and decided this is what happens when you have a
thousands year old law book but have to keep writing in exceptions
for wealthy people along the way so they can do what they want
without repercussions.
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[-]Samatic 1 point 7 hours ago
Bravo my good sir! May you smell through the bullshit and not step in
it each and every day. I say good day to you!
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[-]Jedi50u1dr4g0n 1 point an hour ago
I would give gold to that comment if I could
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[-]RisingBlackStar 1 point an hour ago
I'd be surprised if the person didn't have crazy strands of grey hair
after that comment.
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[-]DarthLeon2 5 minutes ago
"something something out of context or whatever."
-Christian derp
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[-]Theistmurse_joe 1 point 16 hours ago
Starting out by telling people they're brainwashed and can't
think, is a good way to ensure they won't be receptive to your
message. This is a lengthy circle jerk, but it's specifically
designed not to change minds, what's the point of it?
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[-]WotNoKetchup -2 points 16 hours ago
The fate, also in the modern world, of good Christians and
innocents under the protection of God's proverb, is horrendous. Moses
is the meekest man in the world (Num.l2:3), yet he orders the
butchery of women and children in cold blood and the taking of female
children, who are still virgins, to keep alive "for yourselves" under
the permission of God.
No wonder men do this in every war, raping is a perk for being male
and propped up by their bro'hood gives them all the confidence they
need.
The Buybull is specifically written for men and is a rape manual with
instructions telling them how far they can go to satisfy their own
sadistic tendencies.
Women exist purely as punch bags for men to take their frustrations
out on.. gods gift to men.. hard core porn anyone.
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